The Peacock Cometh
Sister and Brother duo and fellow yogis Alison J. Kay PhD and David M. Kay CMT go beyond the standard personal development talk to get underneath the hood of today's unprecedented, universal spiritual awakening to help us discover indeed what else is possible.
The Peacock Cometh
Episode 12: Where is Your Center?
Use Left/Right to seek, Home/End to jump to start or end. Hold shift to jump forward or backward.
Triggers. Reactivity. What does it feel like to lose your center and how much compassion do you have for yourself when you do? Because how can we offer compassion to others if we don't practice offering it to ourselves? Also, what does it mean to be authentically yourself, regardless of what that means you present to the world? In this conversation Alison and David explore the truth in the notion that neither calmness or centeredness or any other desirable way of being is more important than being authentic to our human experience in any given moment. Indeed, nothing good ever comes from pretending ourselves beyond where we are in our individual human evolutions. We are all works in progress and the more deeply we embrace our flaws and mistakes as necessary steps on our path to our highest way of being, the closer we are in proximity to our divinity.
Sometimes the spiritual path includes losing your center for a moment — and then finding it again with awareness.
In this episode, Alison and David explore:
• What it really means to “lose your center”
• Compassion for yourself during reactive moments
• Nervous system jolts and modern spiritual life
• Authenticity vs pretending to be calm
• The difference between reactions and conscious responses
• How expectations, triggers, and responsibility intertwine
• The real meaning of mindfulness beyond the buzzword
• Why meditation practice matters off the cushion
This is spiritual growth in real life, not in a cave.
If you’ve ever wondered how to stay centered in a fast-moving world, this conversation is for you.
Sister and Brother duo and fellow yogis Alison J. Kay PhD and David M. Kay CMT go beyond standard self help talk to get underneath the hood of today's unprecedented, universal spiritual awakening to help us discover indeed what else is possible.
Welcome to the Peacock Cometh with me, David MK, and my sister, Dr. Allison J.K. If you're enjoying these conversations, look for more offerings on our YouTube channels, Facebook, and our websites, Allisonjk.com and DavidMK.com. Hi.
SPEAKER_01Hi.
SPEAKER_00Happy Friday.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, likewise. Happy Friday.
SPEAKER_00Thank you. Thank you. You didn't read my text, did you?
SPEAKER_01Not all the way through. No, I read the top and the bottom. I told you though, in my response, I wasn't going to read the questions.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but it wasn't, it wasn't the questions. I I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't send you any questions that I had for you ahead of time. Okay. So this will be interesting. It was um that's good. How are you?
SPEAKER_01Wow, just such profound uh shifts in movement this week. Um and growth, like really interior growth. Um, speaking of like really just as you nailed it last week, and you're like, wow, since you're really moving through something, I have commanded so much um up-leveling for myself in these times. And it also seems to be hitting um some astrological points that help with uh karmic shifts, karmic releases. So with all the work that I do day in and day out, all the clearings and activations, uh, this full moon's eclipse, it was something. Um, so I'm doing great. Thanks.
SPEAKER_00I missed the eclipse.
SPEAKER_01A lot of people did. The people that I said something about it too. They're like, oh, thanks for letting me know. I didn't even know that was going on.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I know I didn't. I didn't. And I I I mean, I saw the I saw the full moon the night before, and that was plenty for for me. And I didn't I didn't know it was coming. But then I got on a call the next morning and and and and one of my colleagues said, Did you see the clips? I said, No.
SPEAKER_01It was like 3 a.m. to 6 a.m. It was it was like 3 a.m. to 6 a.m. So most of us was sleeping, but you get up quite early, so you could have caught the end of it. It peaked like around, I think it was like uh the peak was between 3 and 4 a.m. I'm not sure on that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. No, I do not get up at 3 or 4 a.m. I do get up early, but not quite that early. I was um, but I was I don't know, a funny thing.
SPEAKER_01Funny thing.
SPEAKER_00Listen I was just uh I well, so last um Sunday, I was doing a um, I was with my meditation group. We were talking about centering, like what it means, what it means to be centered. Um as a as a yogi, what that means to be centered. Um so we so we we talked about that a little bit, and then we did a meditation surrounding that as the in uh you know with that as the intention. And then today I was um I was just out I went to the market today. I'm making I'm making dinner tonight for everybody. And I went to the market in the middle of the day on a Friday, and I was listening to a podcast on the way there. I have a podcast that's kind of running, that's just wonderful. And so I I listen to my podcast, I get to the market, you know, I I I grab my phone. I don't I don't usually take my phone into the store. Um, but uh but but but the uh the girls were out and I I just want to make sure I didn't miss a call for on this particular Friday, so I had it with me. I get back in the car after I do my marketing, and I start the car, and I start moving. Um, and just after I just kind of pulled out of the parking spot, my stereo just blasts right in front of like like so crazy loud with this, and I don't know what radio station it was, but it was just an electric guitar, just for and it grabbed me so hard. And then what happened was I I yelled at my radio so loud. Well, I'll check you out with every expletive you can imagine. It was like, I don't know if so, you being the girl of the of the four of us, the the three brothers and the and and the one girl, you may have likely never been in Alan's hockey locker room. Um, because that's a guy's hockey locker room, right? I've been in there. I I remember be uh being in there when I was much much younger when we were still living at home, and I I got to go in there and I remember as a boy just being blown away by the number of F bombs that were dropped in a Florida or Boston?
SPEAKER_01Because Alan's made some distinctions.
SPEAKER_00No, this was this was this was Florida. Okay, yeah. Um, so I was wait a minute, no, it couldn't have. I don't know, doesn't matter. Point is, um there, I mean, I just like a hockey, there's nothing like a hockey lock, especially with a bunch of guys from Massachusetts. Whether it was whether it was Boston or Florida, I don't know. But the number F-bombs in there is like every other word, just like that. And that's basically what my car sounded like for about 10 seconds earlier this afternoon. Because what happens is I'm listening to my podcast, and for whatever reason, the connection between my phone and my stereo is I I have basically have to max the volume out in my car, on my car stereo, in order to get the podcast to be a reasonable level that I can hear it while I'm driving. But as soon as it disconnects from the Bluetooth, if I forget to turn off the stereo when I get out of the car, when I get back in the car, it the radio turns on before the Bluetooth reconnects, and I am blasted at full volume with whatever this was. And so I lost it. Now, so as a yogi, what does that mean to lose it? And so, what it means to to lose it, so that's what it feels like to lose your center, right? So that's what I did. Like I lost my I lost my center there for a moment. And right after I got done shouting at my radio, I smiled. I was like, oh, that's it. That's what that feels like. All right. I just I just had it out with my car stereo this afternoon.
SPEAKER_01Um do you think that it's really about losing your center? Because I mean part of the yoga.
SPEAKER_00Yes, totally, yes, I do, but go ahead.
SPEAKER_01Part of the yogic path is to have compassion for oneself, right? Right, and so on this planet right now, it's intense living. All of the stuff that's being tested out, you know, the new AI stuff. I know Bluetooth isn't new, um, the geopolitical stuff that's happening, the um change in the vibrational backdrop we're living in, our thoughts creating more quickly, us being more telepathic, us being more opened and awakened, so we're sensing more of what's around us. It's just so much. So I feel like that God bless an F-bomb is a really good servant. I don't know that it's losing your center, man. If you sit there with a bunch of F-bombs, I disagree.
SPEAKER_00It is absolutely, but uh, but I'm totally with you because that but that's that the compassion you mentioned, that was that smile right afterwards. Yeah, like you know, the idea that you can be in every the backdrop you just uh did described, like completely what I mean 100% equanimity all the time. You know, it's just it's not not these days, not there yet.
SPEAKER_01We're not in caves, but you know, I mean not that's the thing that I used to say a lot, and I say less nowadays. I used to say more when I came back from um from India and Asia in general when I moved back to the States, that um these tools were meant for people in ashrams or caves, right? But we are taking this in humanity spiritual awakening times, 2012 to 2032, we are taking these concepts and we're in our daily lives. So all of my work always, as you know, has been about like applying it to the material life. I don't care. Like, you know, somebody wants a past life reading about like, you know, and so many people are like, I was Cleopatra in another lifetime, I was like, you know, Hercules in another lifetime, like they want the big egoic stroking things. But beyond just that comedian um or comedic gig with past life readings, like the people that are seeking information and then they don't apply to, okay, so great, if you were Cleopatra in another lifetime, how does that help free you up to grow more in your body, in your life, with your daily routine and what you're creating and choosing and contributing to the world? So it's another way of saying, like, all of this information, it's all great, and people have taken in so much of it because so much content is pumped out. Did you I recently heard a stat of the amount? We've talked about this, I think, the sheer volume of content that gets put onto the internet on a daily basis is is is is in the uh billions. I could be misquoting, it might be in the millions. So we so all of this information, great, but what are you doing to use it in the daily life? And so I not I'm not even sure that there wasn't a yogi who swore in a cave before because they couldn't get their fire started. You know, I mean, so I I feel like it's unre maybe this is something I got from living in Asia, where it's not like so ideal, these these these um concepts. Because like I was, I will never forget when I one of the first times I was in Bangkok, you know, going on making my way eventually to Kostamui, where I always would go, the island in the Gulf of Thailand, um, during my Chinese New Year break. The first time I saw a monk in uh we were approaching, I think, whatever. He was smoking a cigarette and how we're holding a cell phone, and I was aghast. I was like, oh my God. But then the reality hit me of like, they have a choice as men, I and I'm not sure if it applies to women too, when they graduate, they either go into two years of being a monk or two years of military service. So then I'd all take me back to my daily life in Taiwan. You know, I'm going to the market in the morning, I'm on my scooter, I'm getting bags of goodies and fresh veggies, it's in, etc. And there's monks driving away on their scooters with their bags of fresh veggies and stuff. So, like, all of the massive Buddha statues that exist in Asia that are overwhelmingly ginormous. And then in Taiwan in particular, there was Guanyin, there are Guanyin statues that are ginormous everywhere. Filling up my gas tank for my scooter. Right behind that is a monastery that I used to go running behind on Saturdays in a huge, like, I don't know how many stories high, Guanyin statue. So I'm filling up the gas in my scooter, and I'm looking at uh like seven-story high Guanyin statue. So what I'm getting at is like take like these concepts aren't, you know, I mean, humans are applying them, and we're applying them on a really interesting planet right now.
SPEAKER_00True. So when's the last time you lost it? Or not the last time, just a time.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so there's a there's a there's a special edition here that I need to uh offer. Um, and it's not like a classic record special edition. It's a edition, ADD. Um when I was like implementing, now you'll appreciate this with what you do with technology in your daily job. When I was in um Taiwan and I was a department chair and a teacher, and I needed certain technology. Um I would go to the admin downstairs and I would ask them, you know, four third period, I need uh such and such technology. And they would nod and say, Yeah, okay. And so I would be in the teacher's office, I'd do whatever I'm doing, and then I'd go to my classroom, and the technology wouldn't be there. And I'd be like, okay, why not? And what I came to learn was, you know, the agreeable to your face yes to keep the harmony doesn't mean yes. So dealing with those kinds of things as an expat for 10 years where I can't get my way and where I'm dealing with customer service that is absolutely nothing like what American customer service used to be, I had to learn to dial down the American in me. And so I've learned as a like, and I did, I had a surfboard in A. Did you know that that I had a surfboard when I lived in Taiwan?
SPEAKER_00I think so.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so what that sounds familiar, yeah. I had to leave it there. Um, at this shot at this hut that all the surfboards were left out for the surf, and I really wanted to learn windsurfing. I'm still gonna do that because that was coming in as I was leaving Taiwan. God, I want to do that. The way they catch air. Anyway, yeah, so what I'm talking about though is like this mentality I have. It's really you add in what I just explained on top of the meditator and the yogi, and um I just am so not reactive.
SPEAKER_00Ever.
SPEAKER_01I'm trying to find it. I'm trying to find a a time. I use the F bomb. People love that I use the F bomb. My clients are like, yeah. Um here and there, like when I'm running.
SPEAKER_00I can think of a gajillion examples.
SPEAKER_01When I've lost it of no, no, myself.
SPEAKER_00No, no, I can hold on.
SPEAKER_01I did lose it in a way. If you think about the last time I came up to Saratoga Springs on the night before, my first night there, on the night before, I had a huge interview the next morning that I had to be ready for in front of a really big audience. And I had had the thing collapse that locked me out of the house, and I had to call you at midnight. Um that led me to do cardio on the porch, get up and down the stairs on the porch. Um, but before I got your God bless it, youngest, to go into your bedroom, and I knew that you were on your way to help me in, I was I was walking the neighborhood looking who I could wake up. Um, I was freaking out. I wasn't yelling. There weren't, I probably did an F-bomb, and God knows I must have done an F bomb. Um, but I was calm, I I was relatively, I was problem solving.
SPEAKER_00So there's this, there's this thing about um, I mean, it's completely, I mean, so being centered, feeling centered, being calm, feeling calm, is completely different from offering the presentation that one is calm and centered, right? I mean, because you can have everything like, you know, like um I don't know, it's funny because one of the things I jotted down, like maybe Alice and I could chat about this thing, uh, because I was thinking I was uh thinking about sincerity, what it means to be sincere. Um just as kind of um I mean I was excuse me, listening to something about it in particular, but it's funny that you mentioned um something along those lines about the folks in Taiwan when they said yes to maintain the harmony, but they didn't actually follow through on what they had said yes to.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, saving face.
SPEAKER_00Right? So that's insincere. Right. Or just I don't know if you're Western standards. Okay, well fine, but that but you're still but you're still human to human, right? I don't know if that's sincerity or integrity, like doing what you say you're gonna do, that sort of thing, but um it's complete like the the thing about above, I mean you because you can read all kinds of all kinds of teachings and such about about um about calmness and centeredness and the and the and the inner strength that we find in centeredness and the profound nature of of calm. We were talking about calmness as one of the eight aspects of God last time, you know, but none of none of that trumps uh being authentic and being who you are. I mean, we don't get anywhere by pretending, by pretending that, pretending that I'm calm when I'm not. You know, actually, but actually applying practices and cultivating calmness and applying practices and practicing being centered. Like I was I was grateful when that happened today when my car stereo yelled at me. I wasn't grateful in the moment, because in the moment I was cussing out my stereo. But I was grateful afterwards, and I did also yell at my car in general, and then I felt bad because my car is so good to me.
SPEAKER_01It is really good too.
SPEAKER_00It is I was thinking that. But like, but every but and I mean we've talked be uh before about just um I I think I've said to you before, just like I I mean, I'm grateful when I'm wrong, right? I'm grateful when I'm wrong because that takes a that takes a chip out of my ego. And um, and so I'm grateful when I lose it because you know, because just when you think I don't know, it's like a grateful when you like the the phrase reality check comes up, but that that's not that doesn't really hit it. It's just like a it's like a oh yeah, still working on this. That's what I was saying. Yeah, it's still working, still working on this, just like the idea, and this is where like and you know, circling all the way back to compassion. Like I immediately had come I have compassion, I had compassion for myself a moment later, and the same way I have compassion for the version of myself years ago who raised my voice at my daughter's. Oh my gosh, how much time I had to spend letting go. I mean, parental guilt is a real thing, letting go of those times when I just lost it. I lost my center. And that was, you know, that was you know a good a good number of years ago now. Um I had I had had less practice at that time. So I mean I can and I can think about those things, and I can think about, you know, everything that was you know in my life at that time, happening in my life at the at that time, and it's just an opportunity to be to feel compassion. You know, it's like um, you know, uh these versions of ourselves, right? So I don't know. I'm just I I'm not looking forward to the next time I lose it, and thankfully, like that I lost it on my car stereo. And I was in the moment, I was completely startled like a jump scare in a you know in a movies sort of thing. So when they say like I was not myself, I was not myself.
SPEAKER_01So you there was a reaction.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, oh absolutely.
SPEAKER_01That's what that's what well, I mean, so what does it mean to be um but that's what part of what I'm saying, David, though, is the central nervous system. There's so much talk out here in the industry about like calming the central nervous system, and now people are talking more about the vegan system. I mean, like, there's so much talk about the central nervous system because of what we're saying, right? Because living on planet Earth is so different now, but also because the awareness is raised of pay attention. Like instead of it just being about achieving and striving and doing and forcing and making happen, now it's about because the feminine is getting rebalanced with the masculine. Look at the inner state of you, and that your inner state creates your outer reality. So making that inversion instead of the reaction to something external to us, I think part of the reason why you may have reacted, though, is because it was such a jolt to your central nervous system. And we have so much input that's already on the planet jolting us in a way. If we're open, like if you think of a sensitive baby who's sitting there sleeping, and you come in and you yell at it, that's gonna jar it. I'm not I don't mean to use that as an example after you just talked about it. It's a good talk about example.
SPEAKER_00Because God knows you never did that. It's a good example.
SPEAKER_01But the it's it's kind of like in this spiritual awakening time, humanity's greatest evolutionary leap, 2012 to 2032, nicknamed humanity spiritual awakening time. Like I remember around 2015, people were starting to have more skin reactions. And I remember tuning in with my intuition and understanding that it was because people were awakening more, right? And so the skin was awakening more, they're having more skin sensitivities. This is also when you know, some of some of the digestive system issues, not just for you, but for like a lot of people, the sensitivity to what they were putting in their body, they had to pay more attention to because everything was awakening. So if you take that metaphor to or analogy to the infant that you go in and yell at, it's kind of in part what I understand about why we're paying more attention to our central. Nervous systems. So today, when you have that happen, it was like, um, you know, it's just another jolt to your central nervous system.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I mean, like, and like as and I'll and I'll repeat myself. I mean, I'm not looking forward to, you know, another jolt that has happened to me. I think another part of it was that has happened to me in that car before, but it's been a while. So part of the reaction was kind of like the remembering that this is not the first time this has happened. And actually, in this moment, you've got yourself juiced up even more. If I think about it a little bit more in this moment, part of that, there's something here. There's something here because uh because so often when we are reactive, now, okay, so setting aside the fact that it was a jolt to my central nervous system, I was the sleeping baby and that got jarred awake. Okay, but that aside, when we think about when we do react, when we do get like in an interaction with a human, another human, defensive. Because when I as I think about this now, I have learned to turn the power off on my stereo when I get out of the car from taking my phone with me if I'd been listening to it. But I forgot. So, to what extent was the fact that I could have controlled this had I been mindful enough when I was going into the market to remember to turn my stereo off? So, what I'm getting at is I was reactive, like had I had I had I had no control over that situation, it was just like something that completely came at me, would I have reacted the way that I did? Or is the fact that to some extent at some point in my consciousness I knew that this was actually my fault? Or no, not my fault, I don't want to use that. It was actually I had responsibility in it because had I remembered, had I remembered to do that, then that would have happened. So where I'm going with that is like just how you can tie that into. Um I don't know, I can just I can't think of a specific example right now, but I can remember ref reflecting on past interactions when I was reactive. Um that an aspect of that reactivity was the fact that I knew that that person had a point.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yes, a trigger gets pushed.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01David, can I ask you on a little bit of a side note here? Something.
SPEAKER_00Of course.
SPEAKER_01Okay. So do you consider an example I have within my day so far, um, is I just got a text from somebody who I love collaborating with. We there's and people have commented before on we've done interviews together, and there's been like just such an elevated energy. We really enjoy um communicating. It's somebody who has a big summit, and I go on it, and we have great, enlightening conversations, and so there's a really good connection. And so I've been waiting to hear from him and um about something that's on my schedule that I have to get the task over to my team. Um, and so he texted, and I found myself really excited. Is that a reaction?
SPEAKER_00Is that a reaction? Is that a reaction? No, I I think the interesting because I I guess because what I was about to say was I think a reaction is when you're triggered, like when we react, we're coming from uh I mean, you can kind of think of yourself, you know, of like a version of yourself as a smaller version of yourself that's based in your ego and a higher version of self that we're always trying to uplift ourselves uh toward to spend more time in this in the superconscious and always be operating from that place. And so when I react, that's triggering something way down in my nervous system, right? So if I got um, I got a similar, I got had something similar happen today. I don't know if this will be a helpful answer, but I had an email come through that was very unexpected and very um good. Something I mean, something I was unexpected, and just a wonderful uh validation and opportunity. And and I just found and I just found myself in the moment, like I was I was on the I was on the verge of tears. I mean, I could feel them going up in my eyes, and I was just I was and I was and I said, and I said, wow, wow, this is very exciting, you know, and I felt this upliftment. So I feel like there's a if if there's something that is energizing in that way that draws that uplifted feeling, then that's a higher level of consciousness. That's um, that's not that's not reactivity, that's not a reaction. I feel like so. I guess what I'm getting at is for to me, the definition of a reaction is whether it's a reaction or a response, um, it's it's it's based on what le what part of your consciousness it's coming from. Okay.
SPEAKER_01So when we look at the power forces force calibration that David Hawkins did about um anything below 400, it's it's guilt, there's fear, that right. And then when you go above it, one of the things I know is uh about this that I quote all the time because it surprised me and I love it, is that one of the highest states of consciousness is joyous creation.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So makes perfect sense.
SPEAKER_01Okay. So building on that further, we're talking about inputs, like the whole idea of meditating is to go inward so that your five physical senses aren't busy.
SPEAKER_00True.
SPEAKER_01So if we talk about each of our examples, yours, either two of the two that you've given today, or my example, all of that is catalyzed by an output, uh, pardon me, by an input from the outside world.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01So I'm I am I just like getting way too into this reaction definition. I hear what you said, and I I like that, and that's why I added in joyous creation is one of the highest states of consciousness. But I just I I find it interesting. Like one of the things that just occurred to me is when you were in your car and you started f-bombing the hell out of it, like you were in a state that was reacting, as you've already explained, because it was part of it was self-blame out of that you had forgotten.
SPEAKER_00Could have it could have been, it could have been part of it. Yeah. But it was but it was knee-jerk. There was no, there was nothing, there was no um, even if it was momentary, there was no that's a good distinction. Yeah, there was no, yeah, there was no taking in of um. I don't know. It's funny you mentioned like you make the and I this might be I'd be the last thing that we mentioned here. Um, but um fun, fun to talk about. Um the um like the whole because you brought up meditation and what we're and yeah, and we're and ultimately um pulling back from the from the senses. Um, but how do you know that your meditation practice? I mean, the whole a big part of practicing meditation is so that so that life can be better, life can be uh more enjoyable, life can be more effective and successful, and we can um and and and we can uh be a beneficent presence on this planet and be here for each other and for others as um and get out of the um you know the me mine sort of uh sort of sort of place.
SPEAKER_01So the the beautifully said, yeah, right.
SPEAKER_00So the idea of um so if I can take that, I mean a big part of what we're doing is if I can take that meditative state and go through life in that way, um, and my life gets better that way. That's the that's the whole idea.
SPEAKER_01Is that what have you noticed how erroneously people use mindfulness?
SPEAKER_00Well, you guys thrown around. There are a lot of words, yeah.
SPEAKER_01But the term mindfulness really gets thrown around. So what you just described, coming up off the mat and using the musculature you sat there battling with, hearing all the thoughts and coming back to something else to focus on, whether it's a mantra or the breath, hearing all the thoughts, getting tuned into my God, is my mind busy, right? Realizing that, and then taking those the gains you've made in your hardwiring, in your physiology, and in your awareness into off the mountain, into your daily life. Yeah. Is that is that what we would call mindfulness? Because I I would love to have a what would you call mindfulness? I would love to have a definition that is actually accurate from the yogic teachings. Because I think people are saying like peaceful, aware. They're using it like all these different ways for all to mean all these different things.
SPEAKER_00I think the easy I think the I think the easiest way to think about that, and we'll have to talk about this more next time, is um uh is um being aware, being aware of what you're doing when you're doing it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because I think you said if I had been more mindful, I would have turned my volume off.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, more present.
SPEAKER_01Mindful.
SPEAKER_00I mean, we've got it's well, right. It's uh I don't it's not a great word for what it actually means.
SPEAKER_01Uh-huh. It's exact opposite, actually.
SPEAKER_00There's only one L, but now we're getting really into the weeds.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we are getting into the weeds.
SPEAKER_00All right, I gotta scoot.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00I I love you.
SPEAKER_01I love you back, David Matthew.
SPEAKER_00All right, big sister. Bye.
unknownBye.
SPEAKER_00Thank you for tuning in for this conversation. If you'd like to give back, please follow, comment, subscribe, and share this podcast. If you'd like to work with Allison or meditate with me, I encourage you to explore our offerings and reach out. You'll find all the links you need to Allison's channels and websites and mine in the description for this episode. Many blessings to you.